Tuesday, June 2, 2009

RCMP commissioner is 'very sorry' about Dziekanski's death

Howdy Comrades. Long time no speak.

Was just browsing the current news and came across the following article at CBC. I found the comments very interesting so I thought I would post the link. It appears that many well spoken and articulate Canadians have some very strong feelings on this issue, the RCMP and it's Commissioner.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/06/01/rcmp-dziekanski.html#socialcomments

I wonder how long the Commish and the Government intend to continue their current approach?

Another story from today that definitely should thicken the soup;

"B.C. Solicitor General Rich Coleman ordered the province's RCMP service to pull all 578 of its older-model M-26 Tasers from service after testing showed the same models used by municipal police forces, sheriffs and corrections officers didn't meet the manufacturer's specifications 80 per cent of the time."

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/06/01/bc-government-pulls-tasers.html

58 comments:

  1. "The B.C. hearings revealed some stark differences between the video of Dziekanski's death and statements by RCMP officers."

    No surprise, the rampant corruption at the highest levels was bound to trickle down.

    no justice, no investment

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  2. Comrade, it is good to see you back n circulation. Hopefully there is some light at the end of your tunnel.

    Lets face it being a cop is a tough job made tougher by the minimm 10% of bullies found in every force that use the job to get their jollies. In some countries the number is huge that take great pleasure in wading into crowds beating everyone in range to a pulp. Luckily we don't have such a big problem here.

    When I was much younger and worked as a security guard at an apartment complex it T.O. I frequently came across cruisers at night in remote areas of the parking lot with sleeping cops. The highlight came one evening when there was a party that got out of hand and someone started beating on another person. We called the police and within a couple of minutes a cruisr pulled up and a cop waded into the fight and the second he got attacked over thirty cops came out of the woodwork from every direction including three plainclthes to "deal" with the situation. It was as ugly as the tapes that make it onto T.V. Needless to say my opinion of the police got shaped early and it was hard to tell my kids as they were growing up to trust them.

    On the other hand the RCMP up here have a lot of programs with kids, especially first nations. Snow boarding in winter and canoeing in summer. When I had my business many of them were my customers and I got to know them as regular people. Just too bad that a few rotten apples spoil the barrel

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  3. Wayup. I notice you have taken a contrary view to my post. Perhaps more detail would open the opinion to all readers.

    On the individual I agree a few rotten apples are in the barrel. However the idea that all 4 officers knowingly lied and was backed up all the way to Ottawa is just a few rotten apples and not a barrel full that is the real problem.
    Our government has not acted honourably for decades as evident with decades of nothing but scams schemes and out right theft.
    The corruption has filtered down through the ranks and removing a few rotten apples will only serve the police in adopting better plausible defence rather than being honourable.

    Chretien, a Minister is not responsible for what happens with his ministry(portfolios). From there falls responsibility to the victims.

    Charter of Rights replacing common law allowing courts to abuse power.

    GST, illegal tax

    Devalued dollar giving Cdn companies trade advantage over our now pissed of customers.

    Adscam, a few millions missing, it was good for the country

    Insider trading

    0 down 40 year mortgage scam

    With the increasing deficit we are indenturing future generations to insure the fat cats stay fat while more children slip into poverty. As I was saying at garts place, this will be in the hundreds of billions, the 30B is only seed money.

    This we had over to the next generation that will be outnumbered by seniors.

    A few rotten apples will always need to be removed but this is much more, this is an ongoing failure of the system. The question is how far will it go, how far will we prop up this failed system before the hole government is digging collapses on the next generation? The few rotten apples excuse might make this 1 issue go away but it will certainly promote even more corruption, no time, commit crime mentality of being above the law.

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  4. Good to see you back #1!

    Good points Robert but you have to remember not all of them are bad it's just the bad ones that make all of them look bad. Hard working joes that can't complain out loud when something goes wrong.

    WayupNorth? Are they still south?

    Markets up and down. The end is near never fear.

    Should they really be sharing this with people?

    http://www.slideshare.net/Shaun_Hassett/customer-due-diligence-improving-screening-processes-for-ofac-entities-and-other-high-risks

    How long before twits quit tweeting? When there's money to be made!
    Beware twitter twits, the avenger will near. Neener, neener.

    http://www.searchenginejournal.com/twitter-monetization-how-to-make-money-with-twitter/6867/

    When is Twitter not used by twits? When it's used by those who chase tweets.

    http://www.psfk.com/2009/04/twitterrfid-equals-one-futuristic-cat-door.html

    Who say's we're in recession? Don't let that get you down unless you live down under!

    http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/271477,australian-economy-avoids-recession-grows-04-per-cent.html

    Neener, neener poor man gold is up.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/financialcrisis/5438615/Latvian-debt-crisis-shakes-Eastern-Europe.html

    Near mind dear lads. You can always gander at these gams.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/latvias-blonde-parade

    Great lift to spirits but is it enough to lift from red to black?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/financialcrisis/5438615/Latvian-debt-crisis-shakes-Eastern-Europe.html


    Hope the wife is making you exercise that leg Charles! :)

    dee

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  5. Hardy-har-har maties! 'Tis a blazingly hot day here in The Valley Of The Trolls. Speaking of which, has anyone thought of a fabulous, deluxe five-star vacation? Read on . . .
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    Vacation

    A woman was at her hairdresser's getting her hair styled for a trip to Rome with her husband. She mentioned the trip to the hairdresser, who responded,

    "Rome? Why would anyone want to go there? It's crowded and dirty. You're crazy to go to Rome. How are you getting there?"

    "We're taking Continental," was the reply. "We got a great rate!"

    "Continental?" exclaimed the hairdresser. "That's a terrible airline. Their planes are old, their flight attendants are ugly, and they're always late. Where are you staying in Rome?"

    "We'll be at this exclusive little place over on Rome's Tiber River called Teste."

    "Don't go any further. I know that place. Everybody thinks it’s gonna be something special and exclusive, but it's really a dump."

    "We're going to go to see the Vatican and maybe get to see the Pope."

    "That's rich," laughed the hairdresser. You and a million other people are trying to see him. He'll look the size of an ant. Boy, good luck on this lousy trip of yours. You're going to need it."

    A month later, the woman again came in for a hairdo. The hairdresser asked her about her trip to Rome.

    "It was wonderful," explained the woman, "Not only were we on time in one of Continental's brand new planes, but it was overbooked, and they bumped us up to first class. The food and wine were wonderful, and I had a handsome 28 year old steward who waited on me hand and foot.

    "The hotel was great! They'd just finished a $5 million remodeling job, and now it's a jewel, the finest hotel in the city. They, too, were overbooked, so they apologized and gave us their owner's suite at no extra charge!"

    "Well," muttered the hairdresser, "that's all well and good, but I know you didn't get to see the Pope."

    "Actually, we were quite lucky. As we toured the Vatican, a Swiss Guard tapped me on the shoulder, and explained that the Pope likes to meet some of the visitors, and if I'd be so kind as to step into his private room and wait, the Pope would personally greet me.

    "Sure enough, five minutes later, the Pope walked through the door and shook my hand! I knelt down and he spoke a few words to me."

    "Oh, really! What'd he say?"

    He said, "Who fucked your hair up?"
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    What do you call a fish with no eyes? A fsh.
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    Just for the heck of it, try mixing a rather large jelly fish and a crop circle. The result is stingingly obvious! -- http://tinyurl.com/mvhxzk
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    THOUGHT FOR THE DAY! (Courtesy wrh.com)

    "Bribes given to Third World officials most likely find their resting place in the banks of First World countries, which makes us accessories to the crimes."-- Toronto Star newspaper, July 18, 2001

    Notice the quote was from The Toronto Star, in whatreallyhappened.com no less!
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    Becoming as hot as the inside of a volcano. Robert, you're on the mark again, although I still hold out that it's the Rothschilds (who have close ties with zionism going back decades, and zionists were responsible for 9-11), the Bilderberg Group and plenty of others.

    By the time all this runs its' course, there should be around 1/2 to 2/3 less sheeple in the world, so LET ME OFF THIS PLANET!

    Stay cool, y'all!

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  6. Today was more tropical than the tropics Charles, very nice, but I hear it`s hard on snow levels to keep the lakes up. You might need to extend your dock.

    "although I still hold out that it's the Rothschilds (who have close ties with zionism going back decades, and zionists were responsible for 9-11), the Bilderberg Group and plenty of others"

    Nailing down who is running the show probably won`t get them to get it together. The future isn`t what is used to be so we have to stop planing it from the past.
    Headline

    ""U.S. Lawmakers Fight Closing of Nearly 2,000 Car Dealerships"

    "As top auto executives prepare to announce plans to close nearly 2,000 dealerships before a Senate committee Wednesday, lawmakers are gearing up for a fight""

    Hallelujah we believe

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  7. "you have to remember not all of them are bad it's just the bad ones that make all of them look bad"

    Hello Dee.
    Adding to the previous list of scams schemes and outright thefts I`ll move right past Air Bus or offshore tax havens to the gang capital of the world. These results were known to be coming and predicted a decade ago. In 2005 the police admitted they had lost the war on crime and we got denial from government. This is not a few bad ones but a complete failure of the system. Chasing a few bad ones like Mulroney around won`t pay off the wasted hundreds of billions the feds are indenturing our children with.

    silence is complicity

    Robert

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  8. Comrades,

    I agree that the actions of some spoil the efforts of the many.

    I have an insight of sorts into the world of the RCMP via my oldest Brother who was a Constable in service of Her Majesty and the Loyal Citizens way back in the 1960's.

    Is why I have an unusual perspective, I suppose. I feel that the current focus of the RCMP to hire according to political correctness, which is imposed upon them by the Federal Government and all others concerned more with ethnic and linguistic equality has made the process of effecient recruitment so much more difficult for our Iconic Persons in Red, that it has significantly reduced their ability to choose the best of the best.

    As this process has continued, it has resulted in the unfortunate reality of joining the RCMP as being a less attractive pursuit, as is the case in contemporary politics, I believe. In short, I would say who in their right minds would choose to be subjected to the responsibility of being tared with the same brush as those who should never have been there in the first place?

    Re: the RCMP. As per the case of Robert Dzieksanski, or Ian Bush.

    In an odd sort of a way, I would like to preserve and defend the innocence and beauty of youth, it's spirit and it's devotion to truth.

    My Brother, Constable John, as a young man was awarded the Lieutenant Governors award for bravery for saving the lives of 6 fishermen off the Atlantic Coast during a storm, when he rowed out to their sinking vessel by himself and plucked those sad souls, most of whom couldn't swim off of that vessel and returned them to safety and to their families. He later recieved an award from the community he served as the best liked Mountie they ever had in their community.

    The rest of the details aside, I remember good old boys who used to understand the concept of intelligence, compassion and good judgment. But even then, they weren't all that way. Those who did, stood tall. Those who didn't seem to have prevailed.

    Sad that.

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  9. Which report is correct??

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-06/01/content_11469449.htm

    or

    http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=47081

    Too weird.

    Dee

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  10. They've been 'interferring' in China according to some of the blogs I read. Gee there's a surprise.

    http://www.ned.org/

    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/TrojanHorse_RS.html

    After what happened with coalition perhaps they should come up here perhaps they were the ones to stop it.;^)

    Coalition was the most democratic way to go instead of the fear that was instilled in the voters. Oh yeah we live in a democracy. No wonder voters don't go out and vote.

    Dee

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  11. "yeah we live in a democracy. No wonder voters don't go out and vote"

    The system failed because the foundation of all democracies failed, the rule of law.

    A system broken by corruption will not fix itself. Half the population won`t support prop up or authorize the corruption to continue. Dee you might think we are a little over the top so I will remind what the coming generation is facing and how they will be known as Generation Upyours.

    That`s what your voting, not democracy.

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  12. Dee,

    Most of the info I post has been on other sites over many years. While you might not agree with my opinion or methods the fact is the info has had more international interest than garts place. Recent news that Vancouver is the gang capital of the world and Winnipeg has the most members per capita is not a surprise. Decades of data created the synopsis that this would happen. During the discussion the ones we accused of abusing our children would only offer in defence snide little remarks like we were venting, the international readers saw they have no defence, only distract, dismiss, deny. Now that the results of using sole custody immorally, unconstitutionally and often illegally for profit can`t be hidden they still won`t crawl out from under the rocks and defend their actions.

    While you have been voting in support of this dysfunctional system we have been actively engaging international investors through info packets to the worlds markets about the future of Canada based on the situation of the coming generation.

    While our predicts were doom and gloom hundreds of billions more debt from deficit spending to prop up this broken system wasn`t in the calculation. Other than hedging on raw resources investors are continuing to avoid Canada because, as we said in 2002, this will end badly.

    If you want change you can count on vote none of the above.

    no justice, no investment

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  13. Gday dear leader.

    "Those who didn't seem to have prevailed."

    Don`t be hasty comrade.

    They have manipulated the future but will not survive spending our childrens future.




    In 2002 I was writing Premier Campbell about the looming economic calamity. I received a few replies up until the time he decided he didn`t care. When the US government unleashed consumer spending power to combat the economic attack of 9/11 we avoided serious difficulty from raw resource demand until cracks appeared in the US in 2005. By 2006 our government created the 40/0 scam to extend the bubble and was on a hiring binge that hide the true unemployment. I was saying in 2006 that my economic predictions were still on track but delayed by the resource bubble till 2007. Hedging against the falling US dollar extended our resource bubble till 2008. Had I known about the 40/0 in 2006 I would not have changed the results, only the timing as the results have never been in error. Now our government is spending hundreds of billions of our childrens future to prop up this failed system.
    In 2001 I said Ontario was going to take the biggest hit and they started losing jobs in 2002. Obviously that has not changed, as I`ve pointed out only the timing has changed and not the end results. Propping up this failed system with our childrens future is pure desperation by government to somehow hang on to the old corrupt sense of entitlement by the status quo.

    no justice, no investment

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  14. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/04/more-fbi-hackin/

    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/05/netprivacy/

    How ya doing Charles! I hope your leg is feeling better. Lots of space cadets around but Not all are created equal.

    Dang that refresh is a trigger for wamble. Have to scupper.

    Diesel is really cheap around here. People are wondering if it's as artificial as ladies bar boobs. I guess it's something to look into.

    Dee

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  15. Who the heck justice nowadays Robert?

    Are we ever going to get just for this?

    http://www.greenercomputing.com/blog/2009/04/13/was-chinese-russian-power-grid-hack-a-hoax

    Honey^pots everywhere. La Place must be rolling in his grave. Optics is everything and what happened there ain't good optics.

    Mandelbrot looks so pretty on paper. The sky's the limit some may say. He's French living in England, I think??

    Irritated I am with the trolls around so....Later.

    Dee

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  16. I don't believe in coincidence.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/07/russia-putin-policies-protests

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/jun/07/eu-parliament-bnp-seats-brown-leadership

    What happened to Brown?? That was Honey*pots.

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  17. "Who the heck justice nowadays Robert?"


    Government is in care and control. They have lost control and don`t care.
    Obviously decades of voting has only made things worse, the system is broken and needs replacing.
    To date we have 2 suggestions to restore the rule of law. A provincially nominated federal government or incremental change. Half the population along with Generation Upurs has already rejected incremental change.

    We have a choice, we will keep making the wrong choice, undoubtedly, but economic conditions will force the changes required, brutal as that may be.

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  18. Joke to come.

    A few days ago, it was an enormous jellyfish, created by either folk on tractors or aliens. Now we move to a dragonfly. Are we being given mixed, or straight-to-the-point messages here? A jellyfish stings; dragons generally don't fly, but can kill.

    Answers from anyone please! -- http://tinyurl.com/pvq8oq
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    Whoa mamma! G'day y'all. Robert -- you may be interested in this (further down) -- http://tinyurl.com/l5skb7

    The times they are a changin', that's fer sure. Most of us probably won't need 2 or 3 cars in the near future, as oil, then gas shoots through the roof.

    Dee said: ". . . space cadets around but Not all are created equal."

    Hi Dee.

    Eons of peons ago, I too was a Space Cadet. Now I'm just Space (between my ears!).

    Gordon Brown, Merkel, Sarkozy, most of the Euro henchmen are zionists, and things are moving ahead very quickly. Nothing we can do about it, so it's not worth bothering about.

    Myself, from the calf through the toes, it's still swollen. I do walk every day, rain or shine, just not to the extent I used to. Probably next year before I can get back to near normal.

    I keep outta Sandy's way, 'tho!

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  19. These are troo (sorry, true) . . . Be afwaid, be vewy afwaid, four thay wark amung uz . . . maybe it IS us . . .
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    SEARS

    We had to have the garage door repaired. The Sears repairman told us that one of our problems was that we did not have a 'large' enough motor on the opener.

    I thought for a minute and said that we had the largest one Sears made at that time, a ½ horsepower.

    He shook his head and said, 'Lady, you need a ¼ horsepower.' I responded that 1/2 was larger than 1/4.

    He said, 'NO, it's not. Four is larger than two.'

    We haven't used Sears repair since.
    *****
    McDONALD'S, SURREY

    My daughter and I went through the McDonald's take-out window and I gave the clerk a $5 bill. Our total was $4.25, so I also handed her a quarter.

    She said, 'You gave me too much money.'

    I said, 'Yes I know, but this way you can just give me a loonie back.'

    She sighed and went to get the manager who asked me to repeat my request. I did so, and he handed me back the quarter, and said,

    'We're sorry but they could not do that kind of thing.'

    The clerk then proceeded to give me back $1 and 75 cents in change. Do not confuse the clerks at McD's in Surrey , B.C.
    *****
    BURNABY

    I work for the city of Burnaby, B.C. We recently had a Burnaby taxpayer call the city's Traffic Dept. to request the removal of the DEER CROSSING sign on the Barnet Highway.

    The reason?

    "Too many deer are being hit by cars out here! I don't think this is a good place for them to be crossing anymore."
    *****
    VANCOUVER MALL

    My daughter went to Pacific Center mall food court and ordered a taco. She asked the person behind the counter for 'minimal' lettuce.'

    He said he was sorry, but they only had iceberg lettuce.
    *****
    VANCOUVER AIRPORT

    I was at the airport, checking in at the gate when an airport employee asked, 'Has anyone put anything in your baggage without your knowledge?'

    To which I replied, 'If it was without my knowledge, how would I know?'

    He smiled knowingly and nodded, 'That's why we ask.'
    *****
    PORT MOODY

    The stoplight on the corner buzzes when it's safe to cross the street. I was crossing with an intellectually not-too-fast co-worker of mine.

    She asked if I knew what the buzzer was for. I explained that it signals blind people when the light is red.

    Appalled, she responded, "What on earth are blind people doing driving?!"

    She was a probation officer in Port Moody.
    *****
    COQUITLAM (This is Dilbert's Pointy-Head Boss in action!)

    This happened at a good-bye luncheon for an old and dear coworker who was leaving the company due to 'downsizing.'

    Our manager commented cheerfully, "This is fun! We should do this more often."

    Not another word was spoken. We all just looked at each other with that deer-in-the-headlights stare.
    *****
    SURREY

    I work with an individual who plugged her power strip back into itself and for the sake of her life, couldn't understand why her system would not turn on.

    A clerk at the City of Surrey 's Court House, no less.
    *****
    BURNABY

    When my husband and I arrived at an automobile dealership to pick up our car, we were told the keys had been locked in it. We went to the service department and found a mechanic working feverishly to unlock the driver's side door.

    As I watched from the passenger side, I instinctively tried the door handle and discovered that it was unlocked.

    'Hey,' I announced to the technician, 'its open!'

    His reply, 'I know. I already got that side.'

    STAY ALERT, As They Walk Among Us!

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  20. Hi Charles, Brodrick has mostly the same hopeful whinning that trains will replace cars in a car loving society geared for cars.

    His transportation system of the future is the same failed model we`ve been experimenting with for decades.

    On the good news side Obama has quit repeating the spin of economist whores like Krugman and is concentrating more on international diplomacy which he has a natural talent for.

    The gloves are off with illegal Israel land grabs so hopefully the G-20 will get some direction on a transportation system of millennia.

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  21. Globe and Mail

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/

    MPs loosen rules for cash and benefits after a series of committee hearings conducted entirely in secret.

    The watchdog over conflict of interest for MPs and public office holders, Ethics Commissioner Mary Dawson, gave evidence and advice at four of the closed-door meetings.
    But her comments will remain a secret, along with all statements and comments MPs made about the topic during the in-camera hearings.
    ============

    The watchdog got a bone, we get the scooper.

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  22. Republicans; “where are those 3.5 million jobs Obama promised”
    Krugmans status report, er excuse; less than four months after the stimulus bill was signed, and with hardly any funds disbursed
    ===========

    Cute stuff under the heading "They think we’re idiots" not like `only idiots thought the last election was about that 3 letter word, jobs`.
    Well the day is young, I`m sure the great minds of the liberals will come up with excuses that at least entertaining even if they don`t reach the threshold of plausible deniability.
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    Charles, they are going to cure the over spending problem by spending more.

    STAY ALERT, As They Walk Among Us!

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  23. Charles,

    a propos of nothing, I have found the most amazing coincidence to-day.

    You posted a bunch of great jokes at 4:57 PM yesterday. Reading this morning's Ottawa Citizen, I see most of them repeated in a column, with only the locale changed from BC to Eastern Ontario: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/columnists/Satellite+kaput+Sorry+help/1673365/story.html

    Explanation?

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  24. Canucks are twitts from west to east instead of east to west?

    Dee

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  25. Anyone wonder how something as simple as au grow wings?

    http://gawker.com/5255210/the-air-in-spain-is-laced-with-cocaine

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  26. Herb

    This incremental change after you mentioned incremental here first.

    Explanation?

    "But her comments will remain a secret, along with all statements and comments MPs made"

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  27. centerpiece:

    "1. Something in a central position,,, especially a decorative object"
    ---------------------------------------------

    http://www.recovery.gov/?q=content/making-work-pay&mode=table

    "The Making Work Pay tax credit is the tax reduction centerpiece of The American Reinvestment and Recovery Act (The Recovery Act) of 2009."
    =============================

    Total stimulus; $787B

    Total tax relief; $288B

    Total family relief; $55.5B

    The centerpiece is 7% of the spendulous while 19.27% of the 7% is the centerpiece tax relief but no info on what the peripheral benefits of 80% are or who it is going to.

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  28. Herb?

    Some people use their washing machines or drive their car without thinking about the type inputs involved. Everything is 0 or 1 to them. They haven't been taught any other way.

    The wild strawberries are blossoming as is my apple tree. I have Turandot to keep me company.

    Robert? Don't let them get you down and it's nice to see you post under your name.

    Peace.

    Dee

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  29. I voted `none of the above`.


    Hello Dee, my down or up is all the same, I don`t write the news I`m just reporting it unlike todays allotment of used hay from the Cdn Press.
    btw I`ve used my full name and occasionally my address so using `got rope` or `Ben Dover` had nothing to do with anonymity and everything to do with position, I`m disapointed I failed to provide that for you...
    ================================

    Flaherty sees cautious signs of optimism, as OECD says Canada improving


    "Organization for Economic Co-Operation and Development named Canada among four industrialized countries showing signs of having reached a bottom in the economic downturn"
    =======================

    "reached a bottom in the economic downturn"

    Definition, the nuke as reached ground zero.

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  30. my address so using `got rope` or `Ben Dover`

    I kind of gathered that but I didn't want to seem rude.:) I sometimes don't read all the posts on this board because the refresh gives me the beginnings of a migraine.

    "reached a bottom in the economic downturn"

    It's all crap isn't it? Some people refuse to let go of the old.

    dee

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  31. 'It's all crap isn't it? Some people refuse to let go of the old.'

    eta: Some of the pontification out there is very irritating.

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  32. "eta: Some of the pontification out there is very irritating."

    All desperately trying to avoid defining recovery as jobs and yes it is irritating a goodly number of people.

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  33. Just signed in. Much better.

    Capitalism is as much of a religion as communism or any other formal religion. Faith can be shaken and restored, back to the same ole' same ole' and the cycle begins again as with every cycle. But when there is a cataclysm such as 9.11 was some turn their backs completely against that religion or embrace it further. Plenty of evidence out there of the religiosity and hatred spewed.

    When people feel as though they have a lot to lose they become fearful. When my dog becomes fearful it bites. I'm not afraid of my dog biting me but am afraid of her biting others.

    A bit wonkish I know.

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  34. You are in care and control. If your dog bites you have lost control.

    Government is in care and control and it`s obvious Cdns are getting mauled but the government isn`t afraid, they don`t care.

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  35. Exactly and what happens once it becomes obvious, assuming it ever does? The various subjective outcomes are viewed by populus. Will they, hopefully, act as one?

    d-

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  36. "Exactly and what happens once it becomes obvious, assuming it ever does?"

    Currently there are employment riots in many countries, do you really think we will be exempt when the as the debt comes due?

    lol, how obvious does it need to be that we have a system failure?
    Deficits?
    Secret meetings on graft, sry, honesty, that makes MP`s nervous.
    Gang capital.

    lol, Dee,,, the list Cdns are looking at is very long, you need to quit that unhealthy action of deluding yourself we have a functioning government and step out of liberal la la land to join the majority in the `none of the above` camp. Bring Herb with you if you can.

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  37. You forget Canadians don't behave as others. And no I'm not deluding myself with la-la. Not everyone is cynical and/or skeptical. People tend to trust until that trust is betrayed. For some, it's been eroding for years.

    People still cling to hope that things will change because that's all they have to cling to. Their minds can't get past same 'ole, same 'ole. They vote the same dang party every election knowing what they know. If you ask them why, a 'go with what you know' is the response. People are frightened of change. That's why you see academics clinging to the same theories, unable to accept different ideas. The best profs I had were willing to listen and accept or reject new ideas.

    And is it really 'government'? Some people enter politics for altruistic reasons, because they want to help people and change the system from the inside. The good ones don't stay around. Why is that? Have you ever wondered why people vote for the cads and not someone who is seemingly good?

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  38. After that coalition fiasco? I've joined the none of the above camp.

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  39. "The good ones don't stay around. Why is that?"

    Some need to be inside before they accept the system has failed, broken by corruption.
    I once interviewed a government employee formerly of the Ministry of Children and Families. I asked her why she moved to this agency.
    "No one cared about the children" she needed to get inside before denial lost its grip.
    We now have no one that cares about governance so the good ones leave.
    Half the population is either in denial and vote to support further abuse of power or they need th4e option of voting none of the above.

    Emailing Elections Canada and demanding `none of the above` be put on the ballot has so far elicited one reply from EC.
    `This isn`t the first request, we will forward it to Parliament as they have the final say`.
    What say you Parliament, do you wish to hear from the democratic majority?

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  40. Yeh right. Like that would work.

    Robert? If you have the time, could you find out if Russian government has allowed the sale of vehicles.

    I want to know if there's any link with the tarp payback.

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    No russian bankers have bought any new hummers, only a couple of gulf streams.

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  42. If you have time d check the timeline on Ukos Oil, the unannounced PM Chreiten visit with Putin representing `western interests and shareholders`, the visit by PM Martin and the Beslan school massacre. As a Canadian of a decent moral upbringing I couldn`t in all just conscience vote for that.

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  43. Herb said... Charles, Explanation?

    Hello Herb and Everyone.

    No explanation is necessary. The jokes are publicly owned, so anyone in the world is free to use them and change locations.

    God I love the smell of napalm in the morning! Climate change is happening alright -- it's getting bloody cold here! 'Sposed to warm up by mid-week, 'tho.

    With all the elections in Europe now done and over with, and a shift from left to right the result, this is a good column on how the Nazis (ultra-right wing) began.

    Also, there is a separate link to the right which tells of Britain's poor. -- http://tinyurl.com/mfehl3

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  44. Charles,

    I was just wondering how our esteemed Chuxster and a retired human-interest columnist would publish several identical jokes mere hours but three time zones apart.

    Do I now have to fear a conspiracy of jokesters too?

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  45. Yes, poor Britain. Lots of history there. A lot was learned but forgotten. I get old, I get stupider is how the saying goes. I never did get the beauty of the English language. Good thing I don't own a cell phone eh? I even have one of those old landline ones hanging around. I'm so cheap I didn't have the heart to throw it out. The one I have now is alright but those self-charging batteries are a pain and then all the hang up calls that go on? A lot of hang up calls. People think that we should know everyone with same last name? Pain.

    R? My tin hat frizzles on and off. Must be the meds.;) Guess it wasn't the Russians after all.

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  46. A joke came over this evening, but it's a long one so I'll split it into five groups of ten.

    So, nos. 1 - 10; six is good.
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    50 Facts About Men

    1. Men like to barbecue. Men will cook if danger is involved.

    2. Men who have pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought jewelry.

    3. If you buy your husband or boyfriend a video camera, for the first few weeks he has it, lock the door when you go to the bathroom.

    4. Most of my husband's early films end with a scream and a flush.

    5. Be careful of men who are bald and rich; the arrogance of "rich" usually cancels out the nice of "bald."

    6. Marrying a divorced man is ecologically responsible. In a world where there are more women than men, it pays to recycle.

    7. Men are very confident people. My husband is so confident that when he watches sports on television, he thinks that if he concentrates he can help his team. If the team is in trouble, he coaches the players from our living room, and if they're really in trouble, I have to get off the phone in case they call him.

    8. If it's attention you want, don't get involved with a man during playoff season.

    9. Men like phones with lots of buttons. It makes them feel important.

    10. Men love to be the first to read the newspaper in the morning. Not being the first is upsetting to their psyches.

    More tomorrow . . .

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  47. neener, neener, the elvin folk are around....what can you do..must not see you..make sure the doors are all shut...rugglesmuggles what can you do?

    Macaroni is great. Used to eat it all the time. When did the Italians invent the stuff?? 1901?

    Interesting jokes. Can't wait for the next installment.

    Anyone really look at Krugman's latest PDF? I mean really look at it??

    Make sure all the doors are closed.

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  48. Better to live in Coventry.

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  49. Krugman's latest PDF

    He is missing the most relevant info on consumer debt vs asset and savings rate along with a few other wave sensitive issues on currency and available labour including the biggest suppliers of US goods.

    Employment will signal the recovery, not how much banks are making loaning money to each other.

    WH is making excuses for unemployment shooting to 9.4 when the spendulous was supposed to hold it at 8% but Krugman will be the last to admit the Obama economic plan has failed.

    Krugman will be true to his profession, whoring out the science of economics.

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  50. 50 Fascinating Facts About Men, cont'd. . .
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    11. All men look nerdy in black socks and sandals.

    12. The way a man looks at himself in a mirror will tell you if he can ever care about anyone else.

    13. Don't try to teach men how to do anything in public. They can learn in private; in public they have to know.

    14. Men who are going bald often wear baseball caps.

    15. All men are afraid of eyelash curlers. I sleep with one under my pillow, instead of a gun.

    16. A good place to meet a man is at the dry cleaner. These men usually have jobs and bathe.

    17. Men love watches with multiple functions. My husband has one that is a combination address book, telescope and piano.

    18. All men hate to hear, "We need to talk about our relationship." These seven words strike fear in the heart of even General Norman Schwarzkopf.

    19. Men are sensitive in strange ways. If a man has built a fire and the last log does not burn, he will take it personally.

    20. Men are brave enough to go to war, but they are not brave enough to get a bikini wax.
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    Hi y'all. "Herb said... Charles, I was just wondering . . ."

    . . . whether I really am Chuxter, hairy the Happy Hooker (a.k.a. Suzy Creamcheese), a Tory troll masquerading as a piece of rotten fish or a chocolate-covered Macadamia nut.

    The answer to the above is . . . yes! I have over 120 jokes in my inbox, most of them WMV files which I haven't searched for the links for yet.

    Re: the one I posted the other day, I received it over two months ago, so it is not surprising it is making the rounds.

    Chances are good that this one I'm currently posting (Top 50 Facts) will probably appear someday soon as well!

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  51. The seizures are gone, I have no fear
    All the words are gone, Goby is keeping me calm
    The role playing must go on but the music pure
    I know there's Chuxter to count on

    http://poetry.poetryx.com/poems/4524/

    A lesson to be learned.

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  52. What a load of crap!

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  53. roflmao, lol,from the G+M comments on the gold missing from the mint.


    "David Dingwall's Dentyne Gum comes in four flavors. Peppermint, Spearmint, Royal Canadian Mint, and Entitlemint."

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  54. Funny but couldn't find the article.

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  55. gold missing from the mint

    eh, a few millions missing, at is good 4 da country

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  56. link to fleecing the gold

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/mounties-probe-potential-gold-heist/article1175559/

    I find it extremely hard to understand how any sane person would feel giving this system authorization to operate by casting a vote is even making a difference let alone a positive change. It`s glaringly obvious to me that the system has suffered greatly from the abandonment of the rule of law and most certainly is unsustainable as the economic hole the`ve dug collapses on the next generation.

    Most be a lot of liberals in Canada clinging to their blind faith in having leadership from government.
    Over the cliff with you little Lemmings.,, ya I know they are the cutest so you know I`m only being this ridiculous to show you what I think of your voting records.

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  57. "David Dingwall's Dentyne Gum comes in four flavors. Peppermint, Spearmint, Royal Canadian Mint, and Entitlemint."

    Actually, that was quite stimulating.

    Personally, I was offended most by the obvious arrogance. The dripping arrogance. Unlike the recent Rait performance, complete with tears.

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  58. "Unlike the recent Rait performance, complete with tears.'

    LOL, I must be a centralist, I`m equally offended by the CPC claim Rait is otherwise doing a good job on the file.
    She knew last winter that all the fix needed was money and now we are faced with a moral issue because the money was not spent.
    Obviously not caring then was because the issue was defined as monetary and not a moral issue, but what about now???

    Politics being what they are and as I`ve said many times before at garts the government only acts when it needs to act for itself. Using money to keep the isotopes flowing vs keeping the hiring binge going obviously was not a moral issue but a political issue.

    We have a proven option, provincially nominated federal government.

    For the brutal option economic conditions will force the changes required.

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